Knives & Knife sharpening

[Rami]

sorry mate have no idea what have or what u mean, bought these bout 10 years ago off the bay

some stone you need to soak in water for sometime before they are usable. Some only need a splash of water and you are good to go

 

[Rami]

i have tile around, that be ok? And is it wet rub paper that I stick it to?

how flat is your tile? It needs to be 100% flat. If your stones are not 100% flat you are making things hard for your self.

https://www.sharpeningsupplies.com/How-To-Flatten-a-Waterstone-W69.aspx

Use a pencil and see where you are

actually, there is a bit of tolerance for knife sharpening. So you don’t have to be 100% flat. But it would make things easier

 

[Mark1966]

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carts are easy, maybe you can give them a shot too.

Ouch!

Might be meditation for you - just frustration for me!

 

[Holiday]

Ouch!

Might be meditation for you - just frustration for me!

Must admit straights are easier the spine takes all the guesswork out of the angle

sorry mate have no idea what have or what u mean, bought these bout 10 years ago off the bay

Is there a brand name?

 

[Rami]

Must admit straights are easier the spine takes all the guesswork out of the angle

I found straights harder. All that fluffing about with pressure and cross strokes

 

[Mark1966]

Couple of updates -

Seems that there is an updated version of the EdgeFaux - https://www.amazon.com.au/Sharpener-Professional-Sharpening-Rotation-Fix-angle/dp/B089FHTXV3 (also seen elsewhere BTW)

 

[Mark1966]

Secondly - I got my Chef's Choice 120 for Christmas, not my birthday. Used it Boxing Day to sharpen all my knives. Didn't take long at all, touch ups will be even quicker! Everybody has noticed and commented on the sharper knives when using them. That will now be the standard.

I got mine from here, cheapest I could find. I notice that 'Catch' have them, in silver and with a pick of the 130 but looking the same, for $298 delivered - so a little cheaper again.

 

[wayne646]

A ceramic hone from Ikea for $17 is all I use I don't let my knives get very blunt.

 

[StratMan]

Couple of updates -

Seems that there is an updated version of the EdgeFaux - https://www.amazon.com.au/Sharpener-Professional-Sharpening-Rotation-Fix-angle/dp/B089FHTXV3 (also seen elsewhere BTW)

Is this any good? $70 delivered sounds good

 

[Mark1966]

Is this any good? $70 delivered sounds good

I've not used. I had an EdgeFaux but gave up because of the hassle. Now I use my electric one every month or so

 

[borked]

I've not used. I had an EdgeFaux but gave up because of the hassle. Now I use my electric one every month or so

Typically how long did it take you to sharpen a knife with it from unpacking to sharpened and packed away?

 

[Mark1966]

Typically how long did it take you to sharpen a knife with it from unpacking to sharpened and packed away?

The Edgefaux? Lots of fiddling around trying to get it set up on the bench. I’d say half an hour each time

 

[borked]

The Edgefaux? Lots of fiddling around trying to get it set up on the bench. I’d say half an hour each time

So not the "I need to sharpen this and only this knife in a hurry" type, yet the set up and sharpen all of the houses knives enjoying a drink or two and some form of entertainment?

 

[Blackie]

Just found out that my lovely oil stone never managed to be packed for the recent house move.
"That old oily thing"?
"You won't need that again anyway" sort of thing.
So...I like to keep my knives sharp, plus my hand-plane blade. I like oil stones/water stones, but possibly could look at a fancy knife sharpener (EdgeFaux sort of thing).
Recommend me something guys.
Is this OK? Or do I need different grit levels? I'm not going to shave with my knives so I don't think I need 12000 grit though.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketp...ds/sharpeners/listing/3165550850?bof=ZEalyPhM

Or this?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketp...ds/sharpeners/listing/3169043434?bof=ETdseowN

 

[bernie01]

I bought an EdgeFaux from eBay a couple of years back and this Japanese water stone to finish off with, both have served me well:

https://www.knivesandstones.com.au/...ro-new-cerax-1000-3000-combo-sharpening-stone

 

[Mastropiero]

Well, I see no need to use different gear for sharpening knives since I already own a few stones that Ibuse regularly for honing razors.

So, basically, Shapton Glass 500 if the knife is in dire need of fixing, or it has micro chips, and Shapton Glass 1k after that. If I reaaaaaly want to get fancy, I'll use the 4k to finish, but I don't find it always necessary.

 

[Holiday]

As per @bernie01 and @Mastropiero recommendation I would go with a quality stones, not the no-name Chinese cheapies. I use a King 1K/6K from @bald as that is perfect for knives and beginner straight

https://www.u-buy.co.nz/search/inde...ng-stone-whetstone-combination-grit-1000-6000

or this Naniwa 800/3000 combination from burrfection but the King is good enough for knives and cheaper

https://store.burrfection.com/colle...on-professional-800-3000-combo-mini-stone-set

 

[Blackie]

Good info guys.
OK...I bought these. A Suehiro waterstone, and a Flexcut strop.
Could have made a strop myself, but I'm too busy now that I've 'retired'.
Tickled up a couple of blades already and quite pleased with the result.
It's nice having a 'razor sharp' kitchen knife, but have to teach Missus that you do not put your fingers in the way when cutting through the veges.

https://www.artisanknives.co.nz/sho...ng-stones/large-combination-sharpening-stone/
https://www.blademaster.co.nz/shop/Knives/SHARPENERS/ACCESSORIES/FLEXPW14.html

 

[Holiday]

Nice I've noticed stones are a whole other rabbit hole to explore at a later date

 

[Gargravarr]

Nice I've noticed stones are a whole other rabbit hole to explore at a later date

Yeah, I have a couple of Japanese stones (3000 and 10000) that have been a part of my workshop since ~1990 (back when I was working as a blacksmith) which got used for anything needing a really fine edge, sometimes followed by a touch of the rubber buffing wheel with a polishing compound. I quickly learned to charge my customers a premium for this kind of treatment, mostly because of the time involved in just maintaining those stones. The stamps have worn away long ago.

If I hadn't had those, I would never have bothered making my own pattern-welded(*) kamisori, but for the cost of the stones I could have easily just bought a fine razor from someone else and saved myself the trouble.

* I generally prefer the term pattern-welded to Damascus, since strictly speaking (to a pedant like me) the latter is misleading. The original Damascus was a crucible steel, not made by folding and welding.